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« Reply #15 on: 18 April 2009, 11:53:23 »

NRL & SL coaches have done the sums and know that if they get a set of six close to the opposition line, they have a better than one in three chance of scoring, so the percentage play is not to go for the two points. The only time it's worth taking a penalty at goal (or drop goal) is when the game is close enough that the extra one or two points will make the other team have to score again, or if there isn't likely to be time to get the try. That's why most teams now take the tap over the two points.

In the past, I would have agreed that taking the two points was the right thing to do, but tries come a lot more easily in the modern game. And given our record of spending long periods camped out in the opposition half without scoring, it maybe that taking the penalty is right for us, too.

Makes alot of sense Jon. Amadeus, If your on about the same situation 22-6 (16 points) is not "squandering the chance of easy points when we are only just ahead on the scoreboard." the pros by far outweigh the cons on this, With or without the goal, they needed 3 converted tries to be in the game, If we was 24-6 up that would of made sense as they then would have to score 4 times. (you get my drift all before you start on about conversions etc)
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« Reply #16 on: 18 April 2009, 12:37:16 »

Not having a go, Just asking opinions, Anyway....

...20m out from opposition try line, Approx 30th Min, Score 22-6 up and get a penalty, do you....

A. Go for 2 points, Opposition still would have to score 3 times to draw.

B. Take the tap, Score try to go 28-6 up, (Dont score from it, Opposition still have to score at least 3 times.)


Answer: Coach chose A, Players chose B.

I could understand if we was 24-6 up to some extent as opposition then have to score 4 times, I dont know many people that would of took 2 points in that scenario.

Disclaimer;  Wink Im not having a go, Im stating what happened and my opinion, Im not Cullen bashing, far from it. He is our coach and going nowhere so I back him to the hilt  Grin

Given the form of the team in recent weeks where we appear to be able to camp on the opposition line and not score.
I would have taken the two points.
As proved by the fact that Batley went on to score two further tries the match was not over at that time.
Given the fact that the players backed themselves and scored well done to the players.
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« Reply #17 on: 18 April 2009, 15:53:17 »

Given the form of the team in recent weeks where we appear to be able to camp on the opposition line and not score.
I would have taken the two points.
As proved by the fact that Batley went on to score two further tries the match was not over at that time.
Given the fact that the players backed themselves and scored well done to the players.

I think this statement means alot more than you realise.

Do the players and the Head Coach have a different mentality?

One of the above considers defence to be the priority, and one of the above considers attack to be the priority.

Are the players 'buying into' what the head Coach is teaching?
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« Reply #18 on: 18 April 2009, 17:49:49 »

No
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« Reply #19 on: 18 April 2009, 17:55:58 »

I think this statement means alot more than you realise.

Do the players and the Head Coach have a different mentality?


One of the above considers defence to be the priority, and one of the above considers attack to be the priority.

Are the players 'buying into' what the head Coach is teaching?
Zoics! I meant No! The players and the Head Caoch do not have a different mentality .
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« Reply #20 on: 23 April 2009, 16:36:37 »

and you know this how?
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« Reply #21 on: 24 April 2009, 09:31:35 »

Given the form of the team in recent weeks where we appear to be able to camp on the opposition line and not score.
I would have taken the two points.
As proved by the fact that Batley went on to score two further tries the match was not over at that time.
Given the fact that the players backed themselves and scored well done to the players.
My thoughts precisely. Keep the scoreboard ticking over and have faith in your ability to bring the ball upfield from the kick-off.

However, I think it is game dependant. Against Leigh we definitely should have kicked for penalties as that was always going to be a tight game.
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« Reply #22 on: 24 April 2009, 09:37:03 »

Points on the board every time for me
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