the rfl have changed the rules about toulouse

[mike]

You really are giving the RFL more credit than they deserve.

Toulouse dont want to be in the Championship. They want to be in SL. They wouldnt have come in to the Championship if SL wasn't guaranteed them.

Exactly, and now it looks like they may not reach the criteria so the rfl are 'changing' it to let them in. The rfl must have been sat there with their fingers crossed hoping toulouse would meet the criteria and then they would not have had to cover it up. . . . . . . . now toulouse haven't risen to the challenge, the rfl have to cover it up officially.


You would have expected them to have learnt from the farce that was celtic crusaders and just said from the start 'toulouse are being admitted next time around' . . . . everyone except oz seems to know that is the case anyway.

[ozviking]

An absolute disgrace! If I was SOC I would be making noise about having a clear criteria published...I can see this going to court when we're refused again!

How many times does the same thing have to be said:

There will be no court case, it's against the rules! In order to apply for SL you have to abide by the rules of your application.

You're all getting hett up about something that is paper talk. You all WANT a conspiracy. It hasn't happened yet. You're jumping the gun.

And in any case, if the RFL want to relax the rules they will. Toulouse may be allowed to apply as an expansion club. 'cos they have that status now.

[BEANO]

How many times does the same thing have to be said:

There will be no court case, it's against the rules! In order to apply for SL you have to abide by the rules of your application.

You're all getting hett up about something that is paper talk. You all WANT a conspiracy. It hasn't happened yet. You're jumping the gun.

And in any case, if the RFL want to relax the rules they will. Toulouse may be allowed to apply as an expansion club. 'cos they have that status now.

Not true.

You can't go to court over the result - but you can go to court over the process.

To change the process to suit one club half way through that process is IMO a very good reason to go to court.

[mike]

How many times does the same thing have to be said:

There will be no court case, it's against the rules! In order to apply for SL you have to abide by the rules of your application.

 

and 'how many times does the same thing have to be said:' . . . . any half decent solicitor would rip that rule to shreds within two minutes ?

If we are left out again due to the rfl massaging the rules we would have nothing to loose by taking them to court.

[eddietheviking]

in the league express it states that Toulouse have known all along that they didnt need to meet the same criteria as the rest

my question is - would the other sides in our division have agreed to let Toulouse in if they had known the truth from the start ??

[BEANO]

Despite ozviking's attempts let's stay on topic.

Why are the rules different for Toulouse than say Sheffield? What's the point of having slightly different criteria?

A RFL spokesman says Toulouse's situation is  " more fluid" than other clubs and the French club would be " judged by different criteria, which don't apply to other clubs"

Chief among those criteria are the ability to bring a financial package to the negotiating table, such as a television contract, and whether the pool of French players is substantial enough to justify a second French team in Super League.

[RB]

As per League Express this morning

Tolouse's Application for a Super League Franchise does not have to be backed up by a Grand Final Appearance ( or a Northern Rail Cup Win) . They have different criteria to all English Clubs chief amongst these is the Financial Package they bring such as a television contract and whether the Pool of French Talent is substantial enough to support a 2nd French Super League Team.
This has been confirmed by the RFL and is direct conflict to an RFL Statement issued when Tolouse enetred the Championship in 2009. A Toulouse spokesman has indictaed that they knew these were the criteria from the start and that these are not new criteraia.

[ozviking]

Not true.

You can't go to court over the result - but you can go to court over the process.

To change the process to suit one club half way through that process is IMO a very good reason to go to court.

You can't go to court on a process that hasn't started. The process starts with your application. In your application you agree that the RFL decision is final and will not be challenged in court.
That's the end of that one.

Can anyone find me the whole article to read please? PM me.

[NAT]

  Well cant say I'm that shocked remember how they came straight into our division and how the RFL told all the clubs that this bunch of frogs were at a par with the clubs in this division . Then well what a shock they went on to make them exempt from relagation for 3 years , because they realy werent up to the job . Now they will get a license from the fools at red hall and to hell with what is just or the right thing to do for the sport as a whole its expation at all cost's now and it realy doesnt matter if its the right move anymore the aim is super league europe and to hell with rugby league outside of that aim  .
  

[RB]

Toulouse were only allowed into the Championship after a vote of all the Championship Clubs.

A Toulouse spokesman has stated clearly that they knew what the criteria for Super League Entry were from the start.
They knew that they did not have to qualify for the Grand Final.
These are not new criteria as per the headline in League Express these are the criteria as spelled out to Tolouse more than 1 year ago prior to their entry into the Championship in 2009.

I would be very interested to know what the RFL told the 10 Championship Clubs prior to the vote to allow Toulouse into the Championship in 2009.

[widneswraiths]

well,lewis did say that he would guarantee a team from our league would get a super league licence.now we know what he meant.i hate this guy.

[Huggybear]

The RFL seem almost as sly as the recent US BUSH administration.  How are they doing nowadays?

[RB]

I can't say I'm surprised...

I am not surprised either.

But I am suprprised that the RFL issued a statement before Toulouse's entry into the Championship which confimed '' in the event that Toulouse wish to make an application to comppete in engage Super League in 2012 the club must satisfy the same on-field performance criteria as other Cooperative National League Clubs and appear in the Grand Final in either 2009 or 2010.

Yet Toulouse have confirmed that the club had known from the start of their first season that their application would not be required to satisfy the same conditions.

Talk about getting caught with your pants down and of treating your Member Clubs and their Supporters with complete and utter contempt.

[BEANO]

well,lewis did say that he would guarantee a team from our league would get a super league licence.now we know what he meant.i hate this guy.

If it was always the RFL's intention to promote Toulouse - why introduce the NRC winners \ Grand Final nosense.

They seem to make things up as they go along.

[PSC]

How many times does the same thing have to be said:

There will be no court case, it's against the rules! In order to apply for SL you have to abide by the rules of your application.

You're all getting hett up about something that is paper talk. You all WANT a conspiracy. It hasn't happened yet. You're jumping the gun.

And in any case, if the RFL want to relax the rules they will. Toulouse may be allowed to apply as an expansion club. 'cos they have that status now.

How can legal action be against any rules?

Its happened twice already...I don't trust them to make the right decision.