Salford stadium a goer?

[Sandgroper]

And I know of a few Halton residents who wouldn't thank you for a job!!!!!

[saleviking]

It looks like Salford will now have a two sided "iconic" stadium. 

I have been tracking this and the plans of Wakefield & Castleford in the name of 'research' for proposed next book and
attended Salford Council's planning committee meeting on 19th. To be fair the plans aren't that bad but it is nothing like an 'iconic' stadium.
There is one large stand (as per published artists impression) on one side with much lower level stands forming a 'U' shape on the
other three sides giving a 12,000 capacity in Phase 1. It was admitted that "Phases 2 & 3 will be dependent successful business cases being put forward at some time in the future, and also success on the field."

Talking to the architects and developers after the meeting I was told that to get to 15,000 and then 20,000 "the bike sheds ( U-shaped lower stands ) would simply get higher", while the Chief Planning Officer said the build programme was "very tight".

Unless the Secretary of State's North West Office dictates otherwise it will go ahead and may just beat the 2012 deadline, but I doubt that it will bring about the increase in attendances that the RFL have consistently predicted. In the current financial climate it may be difficult to build & populate the retail development, which is necessary for the Council to recoup its borrowings, and could cause delays in the build.

[Sandgroper]

Any development atm is chancy to say the least.  Depends how many pre-lets they need before they will proceed.

[cheadleviking]

I recall someone suggesting a holiday village on this site? A Racecourse and also expansion of Barton Aerodrome? Can anyone else recall any others?

[widneslatic]

Why are Salford even bothering thinking about Phases 2 & 3??? 
considering they come from a city with a big catchment area, they've never been a well supported club.

[rayvon]

Jeez you people! You've been complaining about Salford not having a good ground for years and now they're getting one you're complaining about that!! Ho hum. .. . wonder why people think widnes supporters are whingers?

Anyway, let's see.....
Wigan, Hull, Warrington - good ground, play well, decent crowds - tick
Saints - New ground - tick
Leeds - developed ground - tick
Cas - probably new ground, reasonable support - tick
Catalans - probably new ground but in France - tick
Wakey - probably new ground - tick
London - going bust again but in London - tick
Wales - give them time in Wales - tick
Salford - new ground - tick
Hull KR - cola ground but Hull derby - could share with Hull FC - tick
Bradford - cola ground, poor grocrowds now, playing cola - ..... oh dear!

Well well well........ who'd have thought.
I still think it'll be Wakey that miss out IF SL stay at 14... I think it will grow to 16 teams with us and Toulouse.

Im impressed with Geds fortune telling skills, all these new grounds that seem to be sprouting up? Or has he been taken in by all the nice artistic impressions?
Ged, you have done exactly what you come on here and criticise Widnes fans for.... you have applied your own "criteria" but taken a totally biased slant to it  

Example : Bradford - cola ground, poor grocrowds now, playing cola - ..... oh dear!
Now you could easily transpose Salford, Wakey, Cas, or London into that exact same box
And as for the Salford Wakey and Cas "new ground" bit, until the work begins its all theoretical

[StuckinNewport]

I have been tracking this and the plans of Wakefield & Castleford in the name of 'research' for proposed next book and
attended Salford Council's planning committee meeting on 19th. To be fair the plans aren't that bad but it is nothing like an 'iconic' stadium.
There is one large stand (as per published artists impression) on one side with much lower level stands forming a 'U' shape on the
other three sides giving a 12,000 capacity in Phase 1. It was admitted that "Phases 2 & 3 will be dependent successful business cases being put forward at some time in the future, and also success on the field."

Talking to the architects and developers after the meeting I was told that to get to 15,000 and then 20,000 "the bike sheds ( U-shaped lower stands ) would simply get higher", while the Chief Planning Officer said the build programme was "very tight".

Unless the Secretary of State's North West Office dictates otherwise it will go ahead and may just beat the 2012 deadline, but I doubt that it will bring about the increase in attendances that the RFL have consistently predicted. In the current financial climate it may be difficult to build & populate the retail development, which is necessary for the Council to recoup its borrowings, and could cause delays in the build.

Can you shed any light on who these developers are?

[Mr Widnes]

Can you shed any light on who these developers are?

Our former sponsors: Peel Holdings. Ruthless.

To be honest, I am surprised they are even considering retail units with the proximity of the Trafford Centre IMO. I said it a while back but you only have to look at the Lowry Outlet Mall and the empty units in it. It certainly is a very high-risk strategy to go ahead and build the units without any leaseholders.

[StuckinNewport]

Our former sponsors: Peel Holdings. Ruthless.

To be honest, I am surprised they are even considering retail units with the proximity of the Trafford Centre IMO. I said it a while back but you only have to look at the Lowry Outlet Mall and the empty units in it.

Sorry, my misunderstanding. I mistook developers for contractors.

No contractors appointed yet then?

[Mr Widnes]

Sorry, my misunderstanding. I mistook developers for contractors.

No contractors appointed yet then?

Not sure on that front SIN, I'm out the loop but I haven't seen anything in the industry press I subscribe to that suggests otherwise (unlike Barr Construction winning the Sintellins job).

That said, I recall a few weeks ago they said they were hoping to start work in October so I'd have thought they would have been appointed by now. Unless of course they have been appointed and its all hush-hush for now.

[cheadleviking]

Our former sponsors: Peel Holdings. Ruthless.

To be honest, I am surprised they are even considering retail units with the proximity of the Trafford Centre IMO. I said it a while back but you only have to look at the Lowry Outlet Mall and the empty units in it. It certainly is a very high-risk strategy to go ahead and build the units without any leaseholders.

I does tie up cash though which is always good if you want to reduce your liabilities for tax and also if you want to get your assets up!

[Mr Widnes]

I does tie up cash though which is always good if you want to reduce your liabilities for tax and also if you want to get your assets up!

I'm not an accountant so I can't comment on tax liabilities or assets.

My point is not why they are going to fill them more as to how. There are retail units at Urmston a junction down the M60, the Trafford Centre, Eccles Market and another area around there (name escapes me) and the Lowry Outlet Mall. The latter was the last to be built out of that lot and its units are only 50% filled - that was late 2008 anyway and that was pre-recession. What I am saying is that they will do well to fill them.

[mick george]

Came over Barton bridge this morning and there was two sites, one either side of the canal. Which site is the Salford one ?

[saleviking]

If you are travelling from the Stockport / Sale area towards the M62 (Trafford Centre on your right) it is on your left. The one on the right is part of the sewerage treatment works and has been designated as part of the Emergency Exit route from the proposed stadium.

[rayvon]

If you are travelling from the Stockport / Sale area towards the M62 (Trafford Centre on your right) it is on your left. The one on the right is part of the sewerage treatment works and has been designated as part of the Emergency Exit route from the proposed stadium.

So if you get fed up of watching Salford being spangles, you have to drive out past more spangles....?