RIP Terry Newton

[Badly Overdrawn Boy]

Such a sad end for someone with so much zest for life. RIP mate.

[johnf]

Anybody still want to put forward any argument that uncontrolled drug taking isn't harmful ?

Terribly sad news that anyone aged 31 thinks they have no other option than this.

Rest in peace. 

[efcviking]

I was woken up by this news this afternoon, and was really shocked!

Such as young age. With really young children 

RIP Terry, my thoughts are with your family.

xx

[J20]

I was shocked read this yesterday whilst trawling prior to the Champ final, just shocked as though he was clearly down on TV the other week he was talking positively about trying to help the game (I know he must of been hiding it in hindsight now of course).

All the SKY team knew him well Barry, Tez & Carney were all ex team mates and clearly had a huge respect for the guy, when they first talked about it and the Fax game they could hardly mutter a word between them. TO'C was just pure tranced sat their he didn't have a clue what to say or think and to also say  their was a quite whisper around that we were talking to Newton about coming on board for SL 2012 when his ban was up.

A real tragedy for a clearly tortured man, we may not agree with some of his actions on the pitch but he gave 110% for every club he represented and was a gentlemen to all who knew him by the sounds of it.

RIP is very fitting for a man who clearly had a lot of demons. Sleep well Terry!

[Mr Widnes]

Agreed by someone who knows

What a tragic loss RIP Terry

Seconded.

Whatever his shortcomings were, people make mistakes. That's life.

Such a shame what his family has been through with his sister. I wasn't even aware of the circumstances of their situation and what they have been through. Different people react in different ways to life-changing events and sadly for him, there was a lot to take on board and it was all too much.

Top player earlier in his career although I wasn't a fan of some of the things he got up to on the pitch, but one very hard man indeed, certainly one you would like on your side for his 100% effort. That said, depression can catch anybody at any time, even the hardest of SL players as is the case here. I just hope some good can come from it in that it might inspire sufferers to get the help they need.

It's tragic. RIP.

[Bomb Jack]

I was re-reading our 2008 License Bid Brochure only last week, and he was one of the Players to back us.

[Red Leader]

A very sad end to anybodies life and my condolences go to his family.

But let us get it in perspective, we have alot of young boys serving this country of ours who have given their life either in a firefiight or by an I.E.D NOT because they have been caught taking an illegal substances to help improve their playing abiliity on that count I have no sympathy for Terry Newton whatsoever.

You did the crime, got caught, take your punishment and start a fresh !!!

[HopeThisHelps]

A very sad end to anybodies life and my condolences go to his family.

But let us get it in perspective, we have alot of young boys serving this country of ours who have given their life either in a firefiight or by an I.E.D NOT because they have been caught taking an illegal substances to help improve their playing abiliity on that count I have no sympathy for Terry Newton whatsoever.

You did the crime, got caught, take your punishment and start a fresh !!!

Not all of the lads killed on active service will have been saints. A handful of them will have had stuff in their private lives that they'd be ashamed of.

But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be mourned or that anyone should go muck raking over any indiscretions in their life. Rightly so that sort of thing is ignored and the tributes are always to a wonderful son, husband, brother etc.

Same with Terry Newton. He didn't kill anyone and his mistake was a minor one in the overall scheme of things. I think he and his family deserve sympathy not holier-than-thou sermons about his faults.

[PSC]

Not all of the lads killed on active service will have been saints. A handful of them will have had stuff in their private lives that they'd be ashamed of.

But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be mourned or that anyone should go muck raking over any indiscretions in their life. Rightly so that sort of thing is ignored and the tributes are always to a wonderful son, husband, brother etc.

Same with Terry Newton. He didn't kill anyone and his mistake was a minor one in the overall scheme of things. I think he and his family deserve sympathy not holier-than-thou sermons about his faults.

Correct.

Whatever he did, and it was wrong, he got caught and was rightly punished, but he must have been in a right state to do what he did. One of the reports I saw alluded to his marriage breaking up, not sure how true this was, but that would affect anyone in an adverse way, particularly if 1. He didn't want it breaking up and/or 2. His actions made that happen.

Depression can hit anyone at anytime. I remember when Stan Collymore was reported as having it, think he was at Villa at the time and people asked "whats he got to be depressed about, earning 30k a week?" That shows the ignorance or perhaps more, the lack of understanding of the disease, that people have.

Its hard to ask for help, its hard to tell friends you're suffering, probably more so for Newton... a man feared by opposition players and fans alike. I first heard of Terry Newton when I was about 12/13. He was the same age group as me and heard from mates who played against him on a sunday morning saying he was like a man at that age and was hard as nails and a "galaxying nutter"...this is from mates, who could handle themselves, who had no fear themselves. He played, and someone may correct me on this, for either Orrell or Hindley Giants. Can't remember which. I had one chance to play against him in 92, but the same day Liverpool played in an FA Cup semi-final at Highbury and I chose to go there instead.

Like I said, whatever he did, on or off the pitch, we all make mistakes. I don't believe in God (in a religious sense anyway) but I hope wherever Newton is now, he's no longer suffering.

[simms X]

your quite correct there psc. terry newton was hard as nails on the pitch. i had the privelege of playing against him & playing with him (north west conties ) & i know i,d rather have him on myside!..but to tell you the truth when i got selected for nwc i was young & the team was full of wiganers such as paul deacon,jonny clarke,warren stevens & many more. i was the only lad from widnes & as you expect a little out of place. but terry newton was so down to earth & always made me feel welcome & chatted to me & remember him to this day sayin they no better than you just because you aint from wigan. he played for orrell & was class. when simmes played wigan in 2004 i think.. he came over & had a chat with me which again he didnt have to, but went out of his way to do so. very hard man on the field but very down to earth off it. r.i.p terry

[Peter]

RIP Terry Newton.

Love him or hate him he was an RL Player through and through, and one of the RL Family.

Sad to see him go that way.

[Steve]

I think the story of Terry Newton will have far-reaching effects in rugby, and perhaps in all sports.

People use drugs in sports for many reasons I'm sure, only to be caught to be branded a cheat and to be cast off.
Perhaps now the reasons for the drug usage will be looked at more, the insecurities considered and more help and support offered.
The pressure to compete at the top end of any sport can be seen as a contributory factor to drug use in search of being faster, harder or stronger. In itself this anxiety of failing to achieve perfection must be a great strain on any professional sportsman and I'm sure Newton wasn't alone.

[Cartman]

The problem for people with depression, stress etc is that the illness is 'inside' the mind body and not visible to others. Compare to a Sunday League footballer who breaks his leg and because he has a cast and it's visible so therefore must be a 'genuine' illness.
He is treated like a wounded soldier and those around him usually will rally around the injured party until he is able to cope by himself. As Nudge says, someone admitting a stress or depressive like illness is often met with the Collymore answer or a pull yourself together type comment.
There were one or two threads a month or two ago about people jumping off bridges etc and I was staggered to read some of the posts suggesting such unfortunate people were selfish. It shows we have a long way to go, I also think Nudge talks about this so well that I wish it was taken on board by everybody before making judgements that may be inappropriate and indeed totally wrong.

[PSC]

The problem for people with depression, stress etc is that the illness is 'inside' the mind body and not visible to others. Compare to a Sunday League footballer who breaks his leg and because he has a cast and it's visible so therefore must be a 'genuine' illness.
He is treated like a wounded soldier and those around him usually will rally around the injured party until he is able to cope by himself. As Nudge says, someone admitting a stress or depressive like illness is often met with the Collymore answer or a pull yourself together type comment.
There were one or two threads a month or two ago about people jumping off bridges etc and I was staggered to read some of the posts suggesting such unfortunate people were selfish. It shows we have a long way to go, I also think Nudge talks about this so well that I wish it was taken on board by everybody before making judgements that may be inappropriate and indeed totally wrong.

To be completely honest, 3 years ago I'd have said that depression did not exist so I don't necessarily blame people for not understanding. Even after I was forced to the doctors with mine, and the doctor told me, I came out and laughed. A friend said "that man in there went to medical school for x years, he knows...you don't". I couldn't argue. The explanation was a chemical imbalance in the brain. anti-depressants help somewhat. Again, I was sceptical when starting the pills. Doc said "you should start feeling better in 10-14 days"....exactly 2 weeks after, I had a normal day instead of a shyte one. I was still unsure, but I had to accept everything the doc said made sense, even though I didn't want it to. The worst pain I've been in, one or two bad toothaches/abscess', knee ligaments, throat infection and the worst, just, was an ear infection. I'd have all those at the same time for a month, with no painkillers, instead of having depression.

I was lucky, I had friends. One of which, practically said they'd never speak to me again unless I got help. I would never have gone of my own accord, never in a million years cos I was ignorant to it being a real illness. I won't lie, there's times when what Newton did, have crossed my mind. In fact, within the last 2 weeks I've thought I'd be better off out of it...I won't do it...I'm more scared of missing out on life, the shenanigans of Vic King's homecoming night out, the week long bender of celebration/sorrow in Vegas, perfectly timed at the beginning of April next year! I have seeked help since I was dragged to docs the first time. I've spoken to a friend, who comes on here, who has it and it was a huge help to speak to him, get his experience, how he dealt/deals with it. Like I said, I was lucky...Newton must have felt so alone.

Tragic stuff.