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« Reply #15 on: 20 October 2010, 23:09:17 »

The life expectancy in the UK is longer than it was when the 65 rule was introduced.

The cost of providing a state pension is therefore considerably more.

There is an alternative - pay more National Insurance.
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« Reply #16 on: 21 October 2010, 01:01:55 »

No. Private pensions existed before she was born.
Quite right, she did not invent private pensions, but she did bring in legislation to encourage company pension members to switch to private ones. Company pension administrators could see the disadvantages but were not allowed to advise employees to remain with their company pension. As a result of this many sharks got in on the act and were able to persuade employees to transfer their accumulated benefits before mysteriously ceasing to exist.  Lots of retired people are suffering from this legislation today.
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« Reply #17 on: 21 October 2010, 01:48:44 »

Collected my big windfall this year......and very nice too. Grin
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« Reply #18 on: 21 October 2010, 07:43:07 »

why do you work.   you work to live. not live to work.
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« Reply #19 on: 21 October 2010, 09:44:28 »

Quite right, she did not invent private pensions, but she did bring in legislation to encourage company pension members to switch to private ones. Company pension administrators could see the disadvantages but were not allowed to advise employees to remain with their company pension. As a result of this many sharks got in on the act and were able to persuade employees to transfer their accumulated benefits before mysteriously ceasing to exist.  Lots of retired people are suffering from this legislation today.

Yes, she did. She also taxed the State Pension which costs me £1200 a year --  well over £10,000 paid in tax since I retired.

I had a bloke aged 57 come to me for advice when this legislation came in. He had worked for British Steel for 29 years and was thinking of taking his pension elsewhere, in spite of the BS Scheme being a final salary index linked pension. I advised him not to change, pointing out that when he paid £1 into his BS Pension, BS paid £1 also. He was steadfast and changed.

A year later the works closed and all the employees over 55 were allowed to draw their BS pension without actuarial reduction from their date of redundancy. He came back to me a complained that his new pension provider would not let him have his pension till he was 65.   The only advice I could then give him was to write to Thatcher.
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« Reply #20 on: 21 October 2010, 10:00:44 »

In the interests of political balance let's also remember that one of the first acts of the 1997 Labour govt was to abolish the dividend tax credit for UK pension funds.  This has taken many hundreds of millions of pounds out of the funds for miners, rail workers, steel workers and everyone else in the period since the decision was made.
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« Reply #21 on: 21 October 2010, 10:02:25 »

Why shouldn't the retirement age go up?

If life expectancy is increasing, then to spend the same proportion of that life working, then the retirement age will go up.

Personally, I'm expecting the retirement age to be around 70-75 by the time it comes round to me, and I've not got any qualms about that.
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« Reply #22 on: 21 October 2010, 10:25:23 »

Why shouldn't the retirement age go up?

If life expectancy is increasing, then to spend the same proportion of that life working, then the retirement age will go up.

Personally, I'm expecting the retirement age to be around 70-75 by the time it comes round to me, and I've not got any qualms about that.

Life expectancy for men used to be 70 and 74 for women. Pension actuaries are now placing life expectancy in the 80's for men and women, and that is where the calculations are based for how solvent pension schemes are.
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« Reply #23 on: 21 October 2010, 10:27:50 »

In the interests of political balance let's also remember that one of the first acts of the 1997 Labour govt was to abolish the dividend tax credit for UK pension funds.  This has taken many hundreds of millions of pounds out of the funds for miners, rail workers, steel workers and everyone else in the period since the decision was made.

Yes, that is so, and being fair GB got it wrong, in my opinion.

Curiously both the NUM/NCB pension fund and the British Steel Pension fund [I know several trustees of the BSC pension fund] are both running at a significant surplus.
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« Reply #24 on: 21 October 2010, 12:33:01 »

Will be interesting to see what is still being blamed on Thatcher when I come to retire in just under 40 years.
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« Reply #25 on: 21 October 2010, 12:40:27 »

Will be interesting to see what is still being blamed on Thatcher when I come to retire in just under 40 years.

It will, and I wish I will be there to see and hear it. Having looked in my chrystal ball, as follows:

Privatisation of the Utilities.
Closing coal mines and steelworks [what were they, Daddy?]
Sinking the last battleship during a war, and finally

Sir Mark Thatcher. 
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