Feeding the scrum rule

[PSC]

Something I thought about yesterday.

Is there a rule to say which side a scrum is fed from? Nothing major, just bugged me for a few minutes last night.

[Get a Grip]

Always from the blind side.

[DJones]

Always from the blind side.

So whichever side the Ref is stood on then 

[ceejay]

So whichever side the Ref is stood on then 

 

[VikingsArmy]

I don't know if any of you have played or play now but personally I think they are pointless. There are so many useless rules such as; the ball has to be put in the scrum with two hands rather than holding it with one and rolling it in. Also if your team has the scrum the prop on the side where the ball is put in has to have his head on the outside so he knows when the ball has entered the scrum and the prop on the other side has his head on the inside so the opposition prop can see when the ball is out. I know you didnt ask about these rules but personally I think that scrums are pointless. Even if you push the scrum to win the ball back you have to wait till the ball is in and by the time you push the ball is out and you have 6 defenders out of the line.

[StuckinNewport]

I don't know if any of you have played or play now but personally I think they are pointless. There are so many useless rules such as; the ball has to be put in the scrum with two hands rather than holding it with one and rolling it in. Also if your team has the scrum the prop on the side where the ball is put in has to have his head on the outside so he knows when the ball has entered the scrum and the prop on the other side has his head on the inside so the opposition prop can see when the ball is out. I know you didnt ask about these rules but personally I think that scrums are pointless. Even if you push the scrum to win the ball back you have to wait till the ball is in and by the time you push the ball is out and you have 6 defenders out of the line.

That is the major positive of the scrum!

[pastplayer]

It's just seen as a way of restarting the game nowadays, nothing more nothing less.

[Sandgroper]

And it seems that it is only a matter of time before the much vaunted RU scrum will go the same way.  A balanced 'real' scrum takes so much policing that they are becoming time consuming. 

At least in our game we acknowleged that fact and get on with it!

[neilw]

I think they are a good thing, the problem is the rules are not properly enforced by the refs nor are they adhered to by the players who loosely flop into them rather than bind in and take a stance. They do this partly because they are uncontested and therefore they really do not have to add their weight to it as it isn't and cannot be used. Unfortunately.

The bonus as has been pointed out is that 6 defenders are out of the game momentarily so it should give better attacking options and more space in which to put these options into practice.

Two hands are used I guess to try and ensure the ball goes in the middle, never does mind, it goes in behind the prop straight into the second row. If this was policed to ensure the ball does go into the tunnel and only the hooker (currently a non utilised player in this role) can strike at the ball then all players would be more likely to bind in, as the threat of a push would be more of an issue. No point pushing at the moment as the ball is not in the scrumm long enough, fed into 2nd row and the LF can pick it straight up rather than it coming through the LF before it can be picked up. Penalise any loosely bound players only SH or SO can pick up the ball once it is through the LF's legs, would ensure all 6 pack players remain in position giving the open field for the attacking backs to use.

It is a lot to police but if they all were told pre season that it was going to happen then they are penalised every time they infringe (no scrum retakes, instant penalty) then I bet it would only be a number of weeks before all scrums were spot on as too many pens could cost teams matches and the coaches would soon sort out the promlem players. This in my opinion would help create better back division moves in open space encouraging players to take on players on the outside instead of always cutting back in field as mentioned on another thread.

[Chipendale]

Something I thought about yesterday.

Is there a rule to say which side a scrum is fed from? Nothing major, just bugged me for a few minutes last night.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/rules_and_equipment/4216576.stm

[The Horses Mouth]

The rule I would change about scrums is the one where, with not long left, one side rushes to form the scrum and stop the clock. I think that the six who pack down to stop the clock should have to remain packed down for the actual scrum, not stop the clock then chop and change as they see fit.

[Peter]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/rules_and_equipment/4216576.stm

I just wonder when was the last time a scrum operated like that!

[cheadleviking]

The rule I would change about scrums is the one where, with not long left, one side rushes to form the scrum and stop the clock. I think that the six who pack down to stop the clock should have to remain packed down for the actual scrum, not stop the clock then chop and change as they see fit.

fair point that although the opposing side could take an age to form, possibly increasing cramps.  Although it is a benefit to the fitter side in order to regain some control of the game!

[The Horses Mouth]

I think you missed my point CV.

If you take Leeds, for example, quite often when they form a quick scrum three of the six that pack down are Senior, Burrow and Maguire along with Sinfield, Jones-Buchanan and sometimes one of the wingers.

If these six set the scrum, they should be made to be the ones who pack down for the actual scrum.

I wasn't saying they should pack down and stay in that position for three or four minutes causing cramp, that would be ridiculous.

[own brain]

I think you missed my point CV.

If you take Leeds, for example, quite often when they form a quick scrum three of the six that pack down are Senior, Burrow and Maguire along with Sinfield, Jones-Buchanan and sometimes one of the wingers.

If these six set the scrum, they should be made to be the ones who pack down for the actual scrum.

I wasn't saying they should pack down and stay in that position for three or four minutes causing cramp, that would be ridiculous.

i agree i think the rule on he stopping the clock is a bit contradictory anyway, the clock doesnt stop all the time when a scrum has formed, then in the last five minutes it turns almost like the NFL